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H1N1: Fact or Fiction?

By Barbara Loe Fisher
Published November 11, 2009 in Infectious Diseases & Vaccines


It’s been about six months since the Department of Health and Human Services and the Secretary of Homeland Security followed the World Health Organization and declared a very scary pandemic influenza public health emergency in the United States. 1

Last spring we suddenly found ourselves watching You Tube videos of people being quarantined in hotels and detained on airplanes by HazMat teams. 2 When we went to the grocery stores, we encountered fellow Americans wearing face masks. 3 And every time we turned on the television, there were news reports about schools closing so desks and lockers could be scrubbed down. 4

The Worst Is Yet To Come?

And we watched CDC press conferences 5 warning us that the worst was surely yet to come because the H1N1 swine flu virus first identified outside a pig farm in Mexico had the potential to mutate and kill tens of thousands more Americans 6 than the 36,000 that CDC officials tell us die every year from seasonal influenza.

It was enough to make us very, very afraid.

No Liability for Vaccine Makers

It was enough to make Congress give drug companies more than a billion dollars of our taxes to quickly create H1N1 swine flu vaccines 7 and then throw in another couple of billion dollars for health officials to deliver and aggressively promote vaccination in Sesame Street ads 8 and on the internet and radio and TV. And while they were at it, Congress shielded everyone who has anything to do with making, promoting and giving swine flu vaccines from all liability in civil court whenever somebody gets hurt or dies after getting vaccinated. 9

It was enough to make us very, very afraid.

Health Worker Mandates & School Vaccination Programs

It was scary enough to make legislators in Massachusetts and other states talk about passing stronger laws to suspend civil liberties and force people to be quarantined or vaccinated whenever a public health emergency was declared. 10 It was scary enough to prompt New York state health officials to mandate that health care workers get seasonal and H1N1 influenza shots or be fired. 11

And then there were calls by public health officials for children to line up and get vaccinated in schools 12 just like in the polio mass vaccination campaigns of the 1950’s and early 60’s.

Older Americans Have Antibodies to H1N1 Swine Flu

Throughout the summer, we were told that H1N1 swine flu was sweeping through the country 13 and millions of us had already been infected with the new virus and pregnant women and children were dying. 14 Curiously, many Americans over 60 were told they didn’t need H1N1 vaccine because we were still protected by antibodies we got when we recovered from being infected with similar H1N1 flu strains in the past. 15 16

Drug Companies Want Adjuvants, No More Eggs

And then, the vaccine manufacturers, who had been pressing the FDA for decades to let them use reactive squalene adjuvants 17 in vaccines, started complaining that they couldn’t grow the H1N1 virus fast enough. 18 The threat of vaccine shortages suddenly loomed on the horizon.

The drug companies complained that they didn’t want to use chicken eggs anymore to make flu vaccines. They wanted the FDA to let them use insects 19 and e coli bacteria 20 and fungus 21 and virus like protein particles 22 23 and dog kidney cells 24 and other really, really interesting stuff.

This is an EMERGENCY they said and drug companies need to be allowed to make flu vaccine any way they want to right now because this is a really serious public health emergency. 25 And, oh by the way, let’s not forget that it is so serious that everyone who has anything to do with making, promoting and giving new flu vaccines need to be shielded from liability in civil court if people get hurt or die after getting vaccinated.

Yes, it was enough to make us all very, very afraid.

H1N1 Swine Flu Looks Like Seasonal Flu

And when we are really afraid, we don’t think we have time to ask questions or double check the facts. We just want someone to tell us what to do right now so we can feel safe and not afraid anymore.

By the end of the summer, while the drug companies and NIH were testing the new H1N1 vaccines on several thousand healthy American children and adults, 26 27 reports started coming out of Australia and the southern hemisphere where they had just finished their influenza season, that the H1N1 swine flu virus was really not so bad after all. 28 29 It was not causing excess mortality, which means there weren’t more people dying from H1N1 than had died in years past from other seasonal flu strains.

Yes, people were getting sick with what looked like influenza just like they do every year but –for most people – it was a few days of fever, chills, body aches, runny nose and cough, maybe some diarrhea, staying in bed, drinking lots of water and juice, and then – feeling just fine again.

CDC Stops Confirming Most Suspected H1N1 Cases

Abruptly at the end of July – when the Secretary of Health quietly extended the national public health emergency declaration for three more months - the CDC announced they were not going to lab confirm suspected cases of H1N1 swine flu anymore. 30 31 The CDC told the states not to test Americans who were flooding doctors offices and hospitals with symptoms of influenza and confirm that they WERE in fact suffering from type A or B influenza, especially H1N1 swine flu. The story was – if it looks like influenza then it IS influenza and can be ASSUMED to be H1N1 swine flu. 32

Really? Is that how the CDC “scientifically” calculates how many Americans die from regular influenza every year?

Two to Four Flu Shots For Many Young Children

The decision to stop testing for H1N1 was followed by an announcement that all children between the ages of 6 months and 10 years - who had never gotten a flu shot before - should get 4 doses of influenza vaccine this year: two seasonal flu shots and two doses of H1N1 vaccine. Further, that the millions of chronically ill and disabled children and adults and also pregnant women should be the first in line to get two shots of influenza vaccine this year. 33

And then Americans, who were still very afraid, started asking questions because most of us, who got sick with flu-like symptoms this year, realized that it was no worse than the flu we got last year. And most of us didn’t know anyone who had died from the flu this year, which was true for most other years as well.

Two to Four Doses of Mercury?

And then we started asking questions about why young children needed two to four doses of influenza vaccine this year. And we thought - what is up with mercury still being in most vials of influenza vaccine? 34 We thought – is it really a good idea to give children – whose doctors don’t have access to single dose vials of mercury free flu vaccine – two to four doses of mercury this year? Especially when it is against HazMat regulations to pour unused mercury containing influenza vaccine down the drain or toss it into a garbage can? 35 36

Is It Influenza, Seasonal, H1N1 or None of the Above?

And then a veteran investigative journalist at a major news network published an interesting report about the fact that 83 to 97 percent of all specimens of suspected H1N1 cases sent to the CDC by state health departments for lab confirmation last spring and summer came back negative - for not only H1N1 swine flu influenza - but also negative for ANY kind of type A or Type B influenza. at all. 37 Which confirmed what the CDC’s influenza expert said at an FDA meeting in 2003: that 80 percent of all flu-like illness every year is not actually influenza but viral and bacterial infections that LOOK like influenza. 38

Wait a minute. Didn’t President Obama stand up at a press conference in October and say that 1,000 Americans, including about 100 children, had died from H1N1 swine flu? 39

But were those 1,000 H1N1 lab confirmed deaths or deaths that were ASSUMED by the CDC to be deaths caused by swine flu?

And how does that number of deaths compare with the 36,000 deaths that CDC officials say are caused by seasonal influenza every year? 40

People Started Asking Questions

And then something unusual happened. Doctors started asking questions and privately some of them told their patients not to bother getting the H1N1 vaccine. 41 And the people, who were still being told by health officials to be very, very afraid, started to do their own research using the great new Library of the World, the internet. People started asking more questions of their government health officials – not just in America – but in Great Britain 42 and the Netherlands, 43 in Germany 44 and Italy, 45 in Poland 46 and in Canada 48 and many other countries.

And then the poll results started coming in revealing that about 50 percent of us were saying “yes” I want to get a swine flu shot and 50 percent of us were saying “No, thank you.” 49 50

Fear or Facts?

And that is where it stands today. Some of us are still very afraid and some of us are not.

I am reminded of a famous quote from Abraham Lincoln: You can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

New Vaccine Ingredients Calculator

And I would urge those of you who want to get seasonal or H1N1 vaccines, to go to the homepage of the website of the National Vaccine Information Center at www.NVIC.org and look at the new Vaccine Ingredient Calculator, which will tell you how much mercury is in those vaccines.

Support NVIC’s Research & Public Education Programs

And I would urge those of you, who want better vaccine science and the right to make vaccine choices, to become a donor supporter of the National Vaccine Information Center’s research and public education programs.

Truth and freedom are not free, especially when there are so many doing so much to limit the people’s access to both.


 

 

References:

1 Department of Homeland Security: Press Briefing on Swine Flu Influenza. April 26, 2009.
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1240773850207.shtm

2 Mackey R. The New York Times. A New Airport Ritual, Swine Flu Screening. July 29, 2009.
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3 Hitti M. WebMD. Putting Swine Flu in Perspective. May 1, 2009.
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4 Barnett G. WJZ 13-TV. MD Schools Closed for Swine Flu Reopen. May 6, 2009.
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5 MSNBC. Pregnant women more at risk for swine flu. May 14, 2009.
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6 Presidents Council of Advisors on Science & Technology. Report to the President on US Preparations for 2009 H1N1 Influenza. August 7, 2009.
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9 Associated Press. Newsday. Legal immunity set for swine flu vaccine makers. July 17, 2009.
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10 Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Senate No. 2028: An Act Relative to Pandemic and Disaster Preparedness and Response in the Commonwealth. 2009.
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12 Zwillich T. WebMD. Swine Flu Vaccine May Target Schools. July 9, 2009.
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13 Stobbe M. Associated Press. Homeland Security Response Network. Swine Flu Could Hit Up To 40 Percent in US. July 25, 2009.
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17 Matsumoto G. Without-Consent.com. Squalene Medical Literature References.
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18 MSNBC. US buys 195 million doses of swine flu vaccine. July 23, 2009.
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19 AFP. US company makes first batch of swine flu vaccine. July 23, 2009.
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20 Herper M. Forbes.com. The Flu Vaccine Accelerator May 5, 2009.
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22 Racanietto V. Virology Blog. Influenza virus-like particle vaccine. August 19, 2009.
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23 Medical News Today. NOVAVAX Virus-Like Particle Vaccine Protects Against 2009 Pandemic H1N1 Influenza Virus. August 19, 2009.
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24 Clark TW, Pareek MP et al. Trial of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent MF-59-Adjuvanted Vaccine – Preliminary Report. N Engl J Med. 2009 Sep 10.
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25 Shaw M. Health News Digest. Meeting the Challenge of H1N1 Vaccine Production. Nov. 1, 2009.
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26 Saslow R. Volunteers take a shot at swine flu. Washington Post. August 25, 2009.
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27 Food and Drug Administration. July 23, 2009 Vaccines & Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting Materials & Transcript.
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OtherBiologics/VaccinesandRelatedBiologicalProductsAdvisoryCommittee/ucm129568.htm

28 Collignon P. Pandemic influenza: inappropriate fear causes unappropriate responses. In healthcare we need good surveillance data to make the best decisions. Healthcare Safety 2009; 14:77-79. http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=HI09021.pdf

29 Flu.gov. Assessment of the 2009 Influenza A (H1N1) Outbreak on Selected Countries in the Southern Hemisphere. August 25, 2009.
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30 Coor WD. 2009 H1N1 Influenza: HHS Preparedness & Response Efforts. Statement before Committee on Homeland Security. July 29, 2009.
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31 Centers for Disease Control. H1N1 Flu: Monitoring Influenza Activity, Including 2009 H1N1.
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32 Caudell J. Western Carolinian. H1N1 Flu Cases Still Being Seen at WCU.August 27, 2009.
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33 Centers for Disease Control. Podcast: 2009 H1N1 ACIP Vaccine Recommendations. September 2, 2009.
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34 Centers for Disease Control. H1N1 Flu. General Questions and Answers on Thimerosal. September 14, 2009.
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36 SafeMinds. Flu Vaccines, Pregnancy & Children.
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37 Attkisson S. CBS-TV. Swine Flu Cases Overestimated? October 21, 2009.
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41 Reports to NVIC relating private conversations with physicians. No links to similar reports in the media will be included in these  References to protect physicians and health care workers from being harassed for publicly stating professional concerns about the H1N1 vaccine campaign.

42  Smith R. The Telegraph (UK). Only a third of nurses willing to have swine flu vaccine: poll. August 17, 2009.
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28 Responses to "H1N1: Fact or Fiction?"
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FaustiesBlog
Posted: 11/12/2009 11:36:53 AM
Dear Ms Fisher, Many thanks for that. Please note, though, that the video is not visible.
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Blackbullie
Posted: 11/12/2009 11:55:14 AM
It looks like the link to the National Vaccine Information Center is wrong in this article. It should be www.nvic.ORG (not .com) Please keep up the GREAT work you are doing!
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Kevin Johnson
Posted: 11/12/2009 12:08:11 PM
I find it troubling that the people who endanger us have so much money and so much free time that they can push our government around and bias our media and pursue dangerous policies and do it all full time, while those of us with a lick of sense are busy with family and work. As long as we are not yet disenfranchised, we must start phoning our representatives, not only out of feelings of passion or compassion but based on resolve. Obviously, simply voting is not sufficient to guarantee good government. We must let our representatives know that we expect them to defend our rights, defend the constitution, defend our national sovereignty, defend our health, and to not cave in to various groups that have selfish, or greedy, or power grabbing intentions - no matter how attractively packaged, or how shrill the fear mongering. We must be resolute and persistent and fearless and tireless and determined, just like the founding fathers. We must also financially support those who are putting their reputations on the line to work on our behalf. If they have a setback, so do we. If they get discourage, we suffer, too. If they are criticized, we are being criticized, for they represent us in a testing of our eternal vigilance.
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Suzi S
Posted: 11/12/2009 1:21:59 PM
Finally, the voice of reason! Thank you for doing the research and presenting the facts so that we may all sleep easier and help spread the truth!
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Suzi S
Posted: 11/12/2009 1:22:06 PM
Finally, the voice of reason! Thank you for doing the research and presenting the facts so that we may all sleep easier and help spread the truth!
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Beverly Schmidt
Posted: 11/12/2009 2:14:42 PM
Thank you for a well written & documented artical on H1N1. I am so thankful to have better understanding of why these vacinations are not necessarily a good idea. I have been empowered by these types of articals that keep me strong in my positions when insane fears start rearing their ugly heads. My four children are vacine free & will remain so as long as organizations like yours are able to fight this type of insanity with documentation like this. Thanks for your hard work!
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Sharon
Posted: 11/12/2009 2:26:29 PM
THANK YOU for the great article - you are doing God's work!!
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Sharon
Posted: 11/12/2009 2:28:21 PM
THANK YOU for the great article - you are doing God's work!!
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Karen
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:00:35 PM
Thank you for your tireless efforts to share the truth.
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Jennifer
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:23:32 PM
Great article! I've been feeling pressured by friends, family and especially the media to get the h1n1 vaccination for myself and my 2 children. This article confirmed my gut instincts not to vaccinate. Thank you for the information!
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Jennifer
Posted: 11/12/2009 3:48:43 PM
Great article! I've been feeling pressured by friends, family and especially the media to get the h1n1 vaccination for myself and my 2 children. This article confirmed my gut instincts not to vaccinate. Thank you for the information!
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V.V.
Posted: 11/12/2009 5:54:14 PM
Terrific video, Barbara! As we all know, pregnant women are being advised to get the H1N1 vaccine. There are reports on the Internet of women having miscarriages after the vaccination, sometimes within days, sometimes within hours after the shot. It's shocking and disturbing. http://preventdisease.com/news/09/110709_H1N1_vaccine_miscarriage_reports.shtml I'd like all pregnant women to be aware of this. One of the ingredients in Fluarix, which is a flu vaccine by Glaxo-Smith-Kline, is polysorbate 80, or Tween80. It's known to damage fertility. It is also an ingredient in Gardasil, which has been known to cause miscarriages. Novartis has a patent on a vaccine that contains squalene and polysorbate 80, that is for controlling fertility in animals. Those same two ingredients are in a swine flu vaccine by Novartis. We've been told the swine flu vaccines in the U.S. do not contain squalene--I hope that's true.
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V.V.
Posted: 11/12/2009 5:56:26 PM
I did a comment but it has not appeared.
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V.V.
Posted: 11/12/2009 7:28:16 PM
I see that my comment has appeared. I'd like to recommend this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ySNSQTR-Q It's a nun in Spain who is a doctor and has a PhD in public health. She explains the background of the H1N1 virus and vaccine and talks about the "irregularities" having to do with the pandemic.
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Ricquel
Posted: 11/13/2009 9:47:11 AM
I am so grateful for the work you are doing with this website. Thank you for the research and the wealth of knowledge you have brought to the public regarding the the whole truth about vaccines. I have 4 wonderful children who have not gotten vaccinated; I have stood my ground for over 11 years and I am praying they do not try to pull a Martial Law Policy on us that would force us to get vaccinated or carted off to concentration camps labeled quarantine camps. If you have any ancestors that have experiened any houlcaust on any soil; your mind does not think " Oh our Country could never do that". Money is a big motivator for some people to do just about anything. I hope that these vaccines are not an attempt to control the population so the elite can continue to control and brainwash the masses in order to make a prisonplanet. I stay in prayer and trust Good will prevail over evil everytime. So Barbara, please never stop the work that you do. I do not have much in the way of finances but I love to inform and teach mothers and families about alternative ways of healing and staying healthy despite the sick care system we have. Detox, Rebuild and Strengthen is my motto for good health. We have to tell people to fight for good organic food that is not tampered with, have access to supplements and herbs. We must not let our government nor our health care system tell us how best to care for our families. Thanks again for all the work you do to help wake the Sleeping Masses. God's Speed and Covering be with you always. Ricquel
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Ursula Coenemans
Posted: 11/13/2009 12:02:03 PM
A wonderful description of the perpetrated fear-monguering - we experience the replica of all these details in Germany and France as well. From Sweden, where vaccinations started earlier, a report has come in this week: four people from 50-70 yrs old died within 2-4 days after the innoculation with Pandemrix from GSK including the adjuvans i.e. booster AS03! Health authorities want us to believe there is no connection between the death and vaccination, doctors say this connection must be considered. The debate about boosters in vaccines is strangely quiet in France, extremely active in Germany, where the government, bureaucracy, medical research institute members, military personnell will be vaccinated with Celvapan from Baxter - without booster! Yet these are the groups who shout loudest: get your H1N1-vaccination - which means getting it with the booster in Pandemrix from GSK! Well, they can shout all they want - I shan't get it. There are far better ways to protect oneself, and SAFER ways. Let's keep our immune system fit with good food, plenty of sleep, reducing some of the stress and natural products such as vitamin C, algae and others. If the flu should hit in spite of this, it will be over faster than any seasonal flu anyway. Wishing you all good health - (those vaccines are most likely trying to destroy), Best wishes, Ursula
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Nancy
Posted: 11/16/2009 10:19:30 AM
Great article. However, what is going to happen to the virus once it "morphs" to get around the vaccine?? This concern was expressed by Suzy Cohen (dearpharmacist.com) in a local radio interview. Also, what is going on in the Ukraine?
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Rebecca
Posted: 11/19/2009 4:39:56 PM
I am thankful for this article and the many responses. Knowing my nephew has leukemia I am more likely to side with those who say reduce stress, nourish your body with WHOLE foods and supplements and pray pray pray! I believe this to be a symptom of the overarching problem of a Sleeping Public. Why is it that people will look to others to be TOLD what to do versus actually thinking and praying and utilizing critical thinking skills that we are ALL taught in our government run public schools in the US and then proceed to panic and cower in fear? NO! I am trying to conceive and I will NOT put my future child in jeopardy of any kind. My family is far better off with good nutrition, rest and prayer than ANYTHING the government tells me I HAVE to do. Pharoah told Moses the people had to stay in Egypt but he was WRONG! He didn't listen until his first born was killed the night of that first Passover. Is that what it's going to take for government and the Sleeping Public to wake up? Some kind of terrible tragedy touching lawmakers to get them to wake up? Now don't misunderstand me, I am NOT threatening harm to anyone. But doesn't it go with reason to believe that the lawmakers are doing a fantastic job of breeding the perfect storm of a perfect illness that could morph out of control? I urge those of you reading this now to wake up! Cover your family in prayer and cover our leaders and lawmakers in prayer as well. MOST Importantly, pray that the Sleeping Public will wake from their Slumber to realize and ACT on the reality that they have choices. The people in big government are ONLY there by action and inaction of the ENTIRE POPULACE. I cannot bring myself to believe that if people really knew what is on the table as far as mandates go there would NOT be a HUGE uproar, a shift in power and a True power of the People would NOT result. I hope and pray the people do wake up, realize the possibilities regarding mandates and that this kind of shift in power does happen.
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colin campbell
Posted: 11/24/2009 1:38:38 AM
This report sounds more like politically based hysteria than a objective discussion of the true situation. Of course there are going to be differences of opinion about what the future will bring. Science doesn't pretend to know everything, in contrast to the writer of this polemic. That's why hazard analysis and risk assessment are used to estimate the probabilities of bad things happening and not certainties as the author expects. Just remember the flu epidemic after WWI which killed more people than the war.
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Gill Cooke
Posted: 11/24/2009 5:42:43 PM
I am astounded that so many of the people around me - friends, colleagues, family etc seem to brush off my concerns about this as 'conspiracy theory' - I am sharing all this stuff on facebook and twitter and telling people where to come to find information for themselves - thank you for a really well-reasoned presentation.
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Sharry Edwards
Posted: 12/11/2009 11:21:37 PM
The speech provided here by Barbara Loe Fisher is the BEST information on the status of the Swine Flu threat that I have ever heard/read.
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Pati
Posted: 12/15/2009 9:50:26 PM
Florida newsrelease as of 10pm 12-15-09-massive recall of N1H1 vaccines. Officials claim that strain is to weak to offer protection. Local Dr. claims that vaccine has enough viral component to be effective. Why risk vaccination campaign & have recall when booster is all that is needed? This makes no sense! What's really going on?
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Rachel
Posted: 12/21/2009 1:21:38 PM
We all need to make our own decisions about our and our children's health, but please, please also remember that public health is everyone's responsibility. The government can't MAKE you be responsible - but you owe it to yourself and your children to get the whole story (and you're sure not getting it here). Is it God's work to endanger the lives of children? I pray we never go back to a world where childhood diseases kill so many of our young ones.
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Marwa
Posted: 12/29/2009 4:45:52 AM
really wonderful and useful article written, i myself and my 2 boys won't get this vaccine although i think the egyptian government will make it mandatory, and those who dont wish to take it shall write a note that they won't. surely i will still won't get it , May ALLAH help us all in this disease and many other
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Marwa
Posted: 12/29/2009 5:30:23 AM
really wonderful and useful article written, i myself and my 2 boys won't get this vaccine although i think the egyptian government will make it mandatory, and those who dont wish to take it shall write a note that they won't. surely i will still won't get it , May ALLAH help us all in this disease and many other
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kelly
Posted: 1/3/2010 8:52:39 AM
Don't you want to know what is in our vaccinations? It is our duty as parents to know what is being injected into our childrens bodies. We can do the research and dig deeper to truth. Just blindly going along without actually digging in is niave. Getting all of the facts is a must, then you can make a decision. Doctors make you feel like a bad parent if you choose not to vaccinate, however on the contrary I feel that a good mother will find out the details first and then decide. Thank you for this article and information.
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Robert
Posted: 1/13/2010 5:02:06 PM
If H1N1 had shown up a few months earlier it would have been in the routine vaccines. So why all the angst? As far as I can tell, side effects include needing a bandaid in case of injection. Thiose things sting when you peel them off. Facetouisness aside, it's just a flu shot and it saves lives. Anecdotes and emotion notwithstanding.
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Joseph
Posted: 1/13/2010 10:29:56 PM
Barabara, You raise some interesting points painting a picture of a conspiracy. It might be worth mentioning that the government is always in the worst position possible: whatever it does it will be wrong to some or most, but it has to do something, usually taking the most agressively "safe" route. And, yes, of course money is involved. If there was no money to be made there would be no vaccines or their availability would be very low. It's a fact that many vaccines are neither 100% effective nor 100% compatible with their intended hosts, but it is also a known fact that incarceration is not 100% effective in curing crime, nor are 100% of those in jail the actual criminals, but we do not and cannot stop the legal system because of these facts. There is a small sacrifice to pay for the availability of drugs, antivirals, vaccines and the like. I wish you would use a more cautious and balanced tone. It would make you appear more reasonable in the face of what appears to be opinion and not medical fact.

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